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Message 3794 - Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 8:51:42 UTC

Looks like I checked the results in vain.
Error messages do not interest anyone.
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Message 3797 - Posted: 18 Nov 2019, 22:36:11 UTC

Nearly all workunits processed from batch 48. Batch 49 already dry.
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Message 3799 - Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 6:28:26 UTC

and... what's next...
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Message 3800 - Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 15:46:16 UTC
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The display mode filtered by K (spt_list.php?k=18) had errors. These errors surfaced from old, testing, batches where the app wasn't stable yet. To remedy this, i deleted:
all of batch=42 (error of sieve invocation)
all where k=0 (output processing error)
all where k in (17,19) and batch=43 (incorrect detection of odd tuples)
the two "2573" tuples in batch 45.
All the "low" batches that were deleted were already checked by XAVER.
Wrong results from batch 45 were already recalculated.
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Message 3801 - Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:06:15 UTC
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Batch 50: 516663064778180900 .. 520000062098180900 -1.
16000 tasks and 16499 tasks.
Increased the formal memory requirement as per #3070.
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Message 3803 - Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 3800.  

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You have not deleted duplicates.
For example, 16-tuples duplicates

500272700245273201: 0 28 108 112 120 148 190 208 210 228 270 298 306 310 390 418
500272700245273201: 0 28 108 112 120 148 190 208 210 228 270 298 306 310 390 418
500272700528288777: 0 26 42 66 90 104 110 150 266 306 312 326 350 374 390 416
500272700528288777: 0 26 42 66 90 104 110 150 266 306 312 326 350 374 390 416
500272793205171263: 0 18 56 60 78 116 120 138 176 194 198 236 254 258 296 314
500272793205171263: 0 18 56 60 78 116 120 138 176 194 198 236 254 258 296 314
500274166044532933: 0 6 16 28 48 76 96 126 130 160 180 208 228 240 250 256
500274166044532933: 0 6 16 28 48 76 96 126 130 160 180 208 228 240 250 256

Can you check for repeatability and delete duplicates?
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Message 3804 - Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 17:04:50 UTC
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What determines the need to divide tasks into batchs?

Is it possible to do continuous tasks generation, as is done in the PADLS TOTAL subproject?
In the SPT subproject tasks generation is simpler than in PADLS.
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Message 3805 - Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 18:03:09 UTC - in response to Message 3803.  

You have not deleted duplicates.

I do not know how to do that correctly. However I found a crude solution. Try now.
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Message 3806 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 2:53:28 UTC - in response to Message 3805.  

I do not know how to do that correctly. However I found a crude solution. Try now.

Now I do not see duplicates.
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Message 3808 - Posted: 21 Nov 2019, 7:17:36 UTC - in response to Message 3804.  

What determines the need to divide tasks into batchs?

Batches serve as a logical grouping of workunits. I can change parameters for new tasks, but it is harder for already submitted tasks. Dividing them into batches allows me to quickly filter the rellevant results.
For me, it is easier to generate bunch of workunits manually than to have a program that does that continuously. With right modification to boinc server software, it would be easier to generate on-the-fly, but that is not yet reality.
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Message 3809 - Posted: 21 Nov 2019, 14:44:26 UTC - in response to Message 3808.  

Batches serve as a logical grouping of workunits. I can change parameters for new tasks, but it is harder for already submitted tasks. Dividing them into batches allows me to quickly filter the rellevant results.
For me, it is easier to generate bunch of workunits manually than to have a program that does that continuously. With right modification to boinc server software, it would be easier to generate on-the-fly, but that is not yet reality.

However, the division of tasks into batches leads to inevitable downtime.

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Also I noticed that the project is running dry. Time to generate more workunits.

https://boinc.progger.info/odlk/forum_thread.php?id=49&postid=4816#4816

Nearly all workunits processed from batch 48. Batch 49 already dry.

https://boinc.tbrada.eu/forum_thread.php?id=3055&postid=3797#3797

Maybe to create the next batch in advance, without waiting for the zeroing of the previous batch?
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Message 3810 - Posted: 21 Nov 2019, 21:31:24 UTC

Very well. New batch should be sent in advance, before previous one ends. I am currently waiting for feedback on 3070, but even if it does not come, I will send more workunits as soon as they run out.
Good news: old, processed boinc result assets are being deleted again!
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Message 3816 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 19:06:33 UTC

Batch 51: Count: 48000
First: 520000062098180900
Next : 524928702098180900
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Message 3836 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019, 9:09:11 UTC

The first square was found in the project!

520210977238677833: 0 6 104 110 210 216 234 240 314 320 338 344 444 450 548 554

520210977238677833+
0  6  210  216 
104  110  314  320 
234  240  444  450 
338  344  548  554 
K= 554 S= 1108


Interesting: the square consists of 8 consecutive pairs of sexy primes.

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Message 3839 - Posted: 16 Dec 2019, 7:16:52 UTC

Found the second square!
521980328345305811: 0 42 56 60 98 102 116 158 270 312 326 330 368 372 386 428

521980328345305811+
0  42  60  102 
56  98  116  158 
270  312  330  372 
326  368  386  428 

S = 2087921313381224100
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Message 3841 - Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 8:50:19 UTC

Batch 52: 524928702098180900 .. 530000067298180900-1
Count: 49390
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Message 3842 - Posted: 17 Dec 2019, 9:02:59 UTC

Batch 53: few short workunits checking past interval boundaries.
In the past version I am not sure the boundaries were checked correctly, they likely were, but it is easy to check. Current version correctly checks boundaries.
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Message 3849 - Posted: 24 Dec 2019, 10:12:16 UTC

Nothing seems to be moving here

51 spt-m 0 1411 0 0 12
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Message 3853 - Posted: 25 Dec 2019, 19:34:59 UTC

Found the first 24-tuple in the project!

k=24
528050771271601307: 0 14 20 86 92 114 140 144 174 182 186 204 212 230 234 242 272 276 302 324 330 396 402 416
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Message 3854 - Posted: 25 Dec 2019, 19:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 3853.  

Found the first 24-tuple in the project!
k=24
528050771271601307: 0 14 20 86 92 114 140 144 174 182 186 204 212 230 234 242 272 276 302 324 330 396 402 416

This tuple was probably found by nenym. Lucky one!
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